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May 06, 2009

Just Wondering...

Donald Pittenger writes:

Dear Blowhards --

* Would Apple finally rule the world if it ever came out with an aggressively priced computer?

* What would the federal government do if (fill in states' names) actually seceded?

* Would academia, the mainstream media and the other usual suspects support him if Barack Obama proclaimed himself President-for-Life?

Later,

Donald

posted by Donald at May 6, 2009




Comments

* Would Apple finally rule the world if it ever came out with an aggressively priced computer?

-No

* What would the federal government do if (fill in states' names) actually seceded?

-Nothing


* Would academia, the mainstream media and the other usual suspects support him if Barack Obama proclaimed himself President-for-Life?

-Yes

Posted by: Anonymous on May 6, 2009 4:43 PM



"Would Apple finally rule the world if it ever came out with an aggressively priced computer?"

I dunno....A good bit of Apple's hardcore of customers became and are Apple users as a way of distinguishing themselves from the Windows using masses. It's a way of signalling status.

Now do I think if Apple came out with a cheap, popular computer, it's hardcore customers would abandon it? No, at least not right away and for awhile. I can't imagine them flocking to Dells or any other commodity PCs. It would open up the market for another luxury brand of high end PCs, however, and this could serve to be stronger competition for Apple's hardcore of high status signalling customers.

Posted by: daleevans on May 6, 2009 5:31 PM



Gotta disagree with anonymous.

Apple: yes. Maybe. It would be a new ballgame, since Apple is premium now, and being affordable would transform their brand. I had coffee with an NYU student, a friend's son, in a Village coffeeshop last week. 38 out of 40 open computers were Apples. Going affordable would lose them that cachet. If Apple were competitive with Dell on price, they'd be huge. But they'd no longer be the New York Times of computers. They'd be rich but not cool.

Secession: they'd say no, forcefully if necessary. Civil War, anyone? Slavery was a relevant issue, but not even a proximate cause; secession was the heart of the matter.

Barry: he may be Christlike, but even the real Christ was crucified. Barry O gets a pass on fascist industrial policy since we think he's so swell, but his leash is only so long.

Posted by: robert61 on May 6, 2009 5:54 PM



1. No
2. Sue
3. Conceivably

Posted by: big 'un on May 6, 2009 6:57 PM



I tend to think secession would be very peaceful. Who'd kill and die for the fed govt? There aren't enough mercenaries and the Legions are bogged down in Mesopotamia. A bright side to that pointless misadventure?

Posted by: Bhh on May 6, 2009 7:20 PM



1. No.

2. If Confederate States of America 2.0 (Now with nuclear weapons) decides to secede, the USA will let them go. Lincoln would have made the same decision if he had thought he might get nuked.

3. Academics would cheer the advent of a new, post-racist America where racists would no longer warp the political system with their racist voting behavior.

Posted by: Quidnunc on May 6, 2009 9:45 PM



It's not in Apple's interest to make a cheap computer. Cheap Apple hardware implies lower profit margins. Apple's profit margins keep Apple's stock price high. Apple software, in a very strong way, subsidizes Apple hardware.

Posted by: Eric on May 6, 2009 9:49 PM



Would Apple finally rule the world if it ever came out with an aggressively priced computer?

There aren't enough homosexuals to create a consumer base that large.

Posted by: agnostic on May 6, 2009 9:51 PM



1. Apple already rules the world (how many companies can get legion of fans excited to buy a phone?) and won't do anything to lower its margins. Ask Michael Dell how the commodity PC biz is working out.

2. Won't happen - ever

3. Won't happen - BUT - IF it did, I could foresee an armed insurrection that would perhaps 'change' the minds of academia and the MSM. Now that's change I can believe in.

Posted by: Antonin on May 6, 2009 10:40 PM



Agnostic wrote:

"There aren't enough homosexuals to create a consumer base that large."

Gee, I didn't know pederasts disliked Apple so much.

Posted by: jimbo jones on May 7, 2009 1:05 AM



Dumbest post and comment thread in 2Blowhards history.

Posted by: JV on May 7, 2009 2:18 AM



Pederasts are gay. Learn your words before trying to sound smart.

Posted by: agnostic on May 7, 2009 5:00 AM



Jimbo:

The correct term is "Ephebophile", with a comorbidity with osmolognia, in this particular case.

And yes, they do dislike Apple that much, particularly if they deal with their excess lard-derived testosterone by bravely insulting people anonymously online, and posting far-fetched Walter-Mitty-meets-Humbert-Humbert fantasies on their blog.

Posted by: Spike Gomes on May 7, 2009 9:40 AM



---The correct term is "Ephebophile", with a comorbidity with osmolognia, in this particular case.

And yes, they do dislike Apple that much, particularly if they deal with their excess lard-derived testosterone by bravely insulting people anonymously online, and posting far-fetched Walter-Mitty-meets-Humbert-Humbert fantasies on their blog.--

I just threw up a little bit in my mouth.

Posted by: Nausea on May 7, 2009 10:12 AM



>> Would Apple finally rule the world if it ever came out with an aggressively priced computer?

Probably no. They've had Minis for some time, and they can be had fairly cheaply. The fact is, when switching to a Mac, you have to learn a whole new paradigm and the average user isn't going to spend the time doing so. There's no benefit to the average user to make that switch. People use Apples for one reason: that's really all they've ever used. (I don't buy into the "cult" concept of the Apple crowd.)

>> What would the federal government do if (fill in states' names) actually seceded?

Pretend to sniffle and wave meaningfully and then laugh hysterically when they've gone?

>> Would academia, the mainstream media and the other usual suspects support him if Barack Obama proclaimed himself President-for-Life?

By "usual suspects" you mean "intelligent, educated, skeptical elitists", right? A moot question as that's not as likely to happen as it was with his predecessor. In his case, his followers worshiped him like he was the Messiah, so I believe they would have. Supporters of Obama are critical when he deserves it and capable of thinking for themselves. Republicans are much less likely to break ranks and disagree with their leadership. They're too locked into the groupthink as dictated by Fox News and Herr Rush.

Posted by: Upstate Guy on May 7, 2009 10:18 AM



http://roissy.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/obamas-women/

Posted by: Nausea on May 7, 2009 11:14 AM



A moot question as that's not as likely to happen as it was with his predecessor.

It is impossible to make any sense at all of that statement.

Posted by: PatrickH on May 7, 2009 11:21 AM



Nausea:

Nah, it's more humorous than anything else. I mean, he basically just implied that one of our hosts here is homosexual (not that there's anything wrong with that) for no other reason and prompt than, I dunno, to prove how outrageous he is.

Cause you know, nothing shows how great an iconoclast and original thinker you are than anonymously calling someone "gay" online. Maybe next he'll declare all Linux users virgins! He's so brilliant!

Note to Aggie:
Taking the above sarcasm at face value is getting tired. Find some other ways to respond. You know, ways that haven't already been mastered by thirteen-year old boys. Also tired: "stalker" "druggie" "depressive" and "carb-lover".
This loaf of bread's for you, kiddo.

Posted by: Spike Gomes on May 7, 2009 11:35 AM



"Nah, it's more humorous than anything else. I mean, he basically just implied that one of our hosts here is homosexual (not that there's anything wrong with that) for no other reason and prompt than, I dunno, to prove how outrageous he is.

Cause you know, nothing shows how great an iconoclast and original thinker you are than anonymously calling someone "gay" online. Maybe next he'll declare all Linux users virgins! He's so brilliant"

That's the problem with the world today. People aren't direct anymore. I would have just shouted, "Cocksucker with an Apple!" and been done with it, but that's just me.

Posted by: Nausea on May 7, 2009 11:55 AM



Would Apple finally rule the world if it ever came out with an aggressively priced computer?

No. Microsoft isn't winning because of price. They're winning because they have a monopoly-like hold on the market.

What would the federal government do if (fill in states' names) actually seceded?

If it's a red state, the government would probably save a lot of money, since they tend to suck in more federal taxes than they pay. So maybe we'd let 'em go. Also, if they take enough electoral votes, then the other party would have a dominant majority and probably want to keep it that way.

Would academia, the mainstream media and the other usual suspects support him if Barack Obama proclaimed himself President-for-Life?

Sigh. Are you serious with that stuff? No, academia, the media, and "the other usual suspects" would not support him if he did that. They wouldn't even support him if he proclaimed himself above the law, a la Nixon.

Posted by: JewishAtheist on May 7, 2009 12:51 PM



Can I confess my bafflement at all the people who seem to think that preferring Macs is nothing but status-display?

I use Macs because I like the experience about a hundred times more than I like the experience of using PCs. I used PCs at work for years. They crashed on a daily basis, sucked up spyware whenever they could, annoyed me constantly with incredibly stupid (and anti-esthetic) design choices, and always seemed about five years late in getting around to mimicking Apple's innovations. Plus, buy a PC and it shows up with tons of crapware on it.

By contrast, my home Macs crash about once a year and delight me many times per day with design and pleasure choices. They haven't been entirely trouble-free, but at least I don't need an IT department on daily call. And as a creative guy, I find that a lot of programs and innovations that suit the "creative" thing show up first on Macs -- the genius writing program Scrivener, for instance. Crapware? Macs have none of it.

Plus... Well, I have an aesthetic sense. Aesthetics are important to me -- they aren't a trivial matter. And I find that Macs create a faaaaaaaaaar more pleasing mindset/experience than PCs do. Working on a PC puts me in a near-constant state of minor/major annoyance. That isn't pleasant. Working on a Mac, I'm being tickled and delighted all the time. Very pleasant.

To my mind using a Mac by comparison to using a Windows computer is like driving a Lexus vs. driving a low-end Ford. Establishing status might well be paramount in the minds of *some* Lexus buyers. But surely there are some who drive Lexi because they find Lexuses to more pleasing cars than Fords are.

For me Macs are more than worth the couple of hundred extra bucks they cost. And I don't use 'em to impress anyone, I use 'em because they suit me a zillion times better than PCs do.

Posted by: Michael Blowhard on May 7, 2009 1:14 PM



What JV said.

Posted by: Chris White on May 7, 2009 1:17 PM



Plus... Well, I have an aesthetic sense. "Aesthetics are important to me -- they aren't a trivial matter. And I find that Macs create a faaaaaaaaaar more pleasing mindset/experience than PCs do. Working on a PC puts me in a near-constant state of minor/major annoyance. That isn't pleasant. Working on a Mac, I'm being tickled and delighted all the time. Very pleasant."

Homo.

Posted by: Straight and Narrow on May 7, 2009 1:28 PM



Agnostic wrote,

"Pederasts are gay. Learn your words before trying to sound smart."

That's my point. I wasn't misusing a word in order to sound smart.

Sure you only talk about underage "girls" on your site.

But you also like to dance. And you talk about dancing all the time on your site.

I wouldn't expect you to admit it outright. After all, you do try really, really hard to look respectable and tough for the GNXP/HBD crowd.

Posted by: jimbo jones on May 7, 2009 2:30 PM



* Would Apple finally rule the world if it ever came out with an aggressively priced computer?

No. There are still enormous amounts of computing done on "legacy" systems that are decades old. Windows systems are now the norm (huge installed base), and computing power of even several years ago is so great that there's not that much incentive to replace old systems. Going forward - the future of computing may be going in radically new directions. Netbooks, phone/computer combos like the iPhone, cloud computing. The Mac (which I love) is an older paradigm.

If Apple's prices came down, Apple would surely gain market share - but commodity markets tend to kill off participants (there's always someone to undercut you). Remember Gateway?

* What would the federal government do if (fill in states' names) actually seceded?

Umm. You mean "declared secession". As in 1861, declarations of secession are void. No state has government has the power to interfere in any way with the Constitutional authority of the Federal government. See the Supremacy Clause in Article VI. Any attempt to resist lawful Federal authority would be armed rebellion, just as it was in 1861.

Personally, I can't imagine any state government actually attempting such nonsense. One might see a secession referendum somewhere. But suppose such a referendum got 51% of the vote; does that mean the other 49% of the voters, and all the non-voters, are now stripped of their U.S. citizenship without their consent?

* Would academia, the mainstream media and the other usual suspects support him if Barack Obama proclaimed himself President-for-Life?

No. Obama has this Messianic aura, but he's not that much of a radical. Yes, the current economic/financial program is way drastic, but it started with Bush; Obama isn't breaking that much new ground there.

And his support among "the usual suspects" is softer than you might imagine: the really hard Left doesn't trust him at all. He's already failed conspicuously to close Gitmo, surrender in Iraq or Afghanistan, denounce Israel for genocide, or have Bush and his associates arrested.

Quidnunc: where would "CSA 2.0" get nuclear weapons? All nuclear weapons are under the control of the U.S. Air Force and Navy. Even if all the airmen or sailors from some "secessionist" state tried to seize some nukes, they would be way outnumbered on that missile base or submarine by personnel from other states.

Posted by: Rich Rostrom on May 7, 2009 2:55 PM



"Quidnunc: where would "CSA 2.0" get nuclear weapons? All nuclear weapons are under the control of the U.S. Air Force and Navy. Even if all the airmen or sailors from some "secessionist" state tried to seize some nukes, they would be way outnumbered on that missile base or submarine by personnel from other states."

Loyal forces have to get there to stop the seizure before those weapons get grabbed and dispersed by secesh forces. If federal troops try to retake the seized weapons at some nuclear arsenal through force, there'd likely be shooting(and if they negotiate, they look weak). Planes and helicopters will be shot down, vehicles will be ambushed and shot up, the whole bit. Can loyal federal troops hold out until (hopefully) help arrives? Will they surrender or just get up and leave? Federal forces might lose the battle too. Nothing that hasn't happened in many places around the world, inclduing in our last Civil War.
And who says the guys grabbing the stuff would be outnumbered? Look what happened in the former Yugoslavia. JNA bases in places like Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia/Herz. (or places that became those countries) got overrun by local militia forces who took the stuff for themselves. Sometimes the JNA got there in time to stop the seizure of material. Sometimes they didn't and there were firefights. Sometimes, the JNA didn't even try because it wasn't worth it to try. And often those bases were subverted by the Croats/Serbs/Slovenes who were stationed there with no problems at all. They opened the doors and started handing out stuff to their co-ethnic militia pals. Anybody not on board (or Croatian in Serbian land or Serbian in Croatian land, etc...) was told to GTFO and they did. Where'd they go? That's right, they returned to their ethnics and rearmed for the coming fun.

Posted by: anonymous on May 7, 2009 3:53 PM



"Supporters of Obama are critical when he deserves it and capable of thinking for themselves"

Still got that tingle up your leg, Chris Matthews?

"Yes, the current economic/financial program is way drastic, but it started with Bush;"

So I see we're still using the "it was like that when I got here" excuse.

Both of you need new material. Visit JournoList.

Posted by: New Material on May 7, 2009 4:11 PM



"Would academia, the mainstream media and the other usual suspects support him if Barack Obama proclaimed himself President-for-Life?"

Jeez, get a popular Dem and righties start talking dictatorship, secession, and taking up arms. WTF?

Posted by: Steve W on May 7, 2009 7:00 PM



Re Apple.

Apple is in serious trouble. The Depression is not going away any time soon, Obama and Dem's various idiocies, not limited to excessive taxation, deficit spending, cap and trade massive energy price hikes, gutting manufacturing, and other Yuppie fantasy idiocies of how to run an industrial nation, are going to severely press consumers.

Status displays are only affordable when there is excess money to signal status. When it's a matter of affordability, Apple loses. It's already losing. Apple absolutely needs budget computers in the Desktop and Laptop line that are far more affordable, while maintaining some segmentation with ostentatious status-displays. They are not any different than Harley Davidson, or Mercedes, or luxury brands in general which are all hurting, along with Starbucks. Only Wal-Mart and McDonalds are well positioned, the Depression which will last years making it a Wal-Mart world.

Re Secession.

It's likely, when Obama and Dems pass things like Gun Bans, or mandatory national recognition of Gay Marriage, or other deeply SWPL Yuppie ideolog goals. Already Montana and Oklahoma have passed laws nullifying potential Federal gun bans. Obama and Dems clearly want a national gun ban and confiscation, because they hate guns and more importantly, gun owners. And want deeply a national Gay Marriage Law. Either of these can cause "soft succession" which would be 10th Amendment nullification of Federal laws as unconstitutional infringement on State's duly noted powers. Of course the Supreme Court would hold that the 10th Amendment is null and void like the Second and First, setting up a "let them enforce it" struggle. Particularly since Depression + Liberalism = massive, minority against White crime waves, and guns particularly handguns have real utility in stopping murderous attacks.

As for Obama, he's worshipped as a living God by his base of Yuppies, Women, Gays, Blacks, Hispanics, Academics, and Media morons. Anything he does is OK by them. Moreover they'd welcome a dictatorship because the biggest struggle in the West is that between the urban elites who HATE the average person and cultural traditions and the nuclear family, and the average person who hates the elites.

Eventually, things will come to a head because of nuclear weapons in the hands of terrorists. Pakistan hangs by a thread, particularly since Robert Gates says the Taliban will "never" get their hands on nukes (assume they already have). Obama and his Yuppie Scum would rather surrender to Sharia (it only impacts "the little people" after all) than fight and empower Joe Average and Joe Average won't tolerate American cities being nuked without halving the world's population of Muslims. That's the contradiction of a Yuppie Elite and President who hate/loathe American traditions and most Americans, and the requirement of most people not to be nuked into cinders.

Posted by: whiskey on May 7, 2009 10:39 PM



Awesome, Whiskey has promoted me to an "elite!" Always thought I was pretty average, myself, but I guess the bar has been lowered.

I reiterate: dumbest post and dumberer comment thread ever.

Posted by: JV on May 7, 2009 11:20 PM



BTW, whiskey is "testing99" over at Steve Sailer's blog.

Most commenters here probably already know, but just wanted to point it out.

Posted by: wanninski on May 8, 2009 3:25 AM



That's true about Whiskey? Smart, interesting guy, if a little far into the intricacies of his own thought. But why does he change his handle?

Hey, about Macs and the arts ... I happened to go to a workshop of a theater piece last night. Total no-budget thing, but slick in its tiny way. Sound was being handled by a gal with a Mac. I talked to her for a few minutes about it. Why a Mac? Basically she explained it this way: Arts people prefer Macs, because Macs are prettier and less techie than PCs. So much arts software gets written for the Mac. Which in turn makes it obligatory for people coming into the arts to work on Macs. The package she was using to run sound, for instance: only for the Mac. So if you're in the arts, you're almost certainly a Mac person.

At the media place where I worked, the designer/photography departments were all on Macs, though the rest of the org was on PCs.

When The Wife and I made our audiobook, we did it at a snazzy sound studio (a place that makes most of its money from TV ads, movies, trailers, etc). All on Mac. About a dozen computers, hundreds of external hard drives, complex networks ... ProTools was the software package. The geek-rockers who actually engineered the audiobook for us were plenty tech-savvy, and plenty irreverent about the computers and about ProTools. But they basically took it for granted that people in the creative-sound field would be working on Macs.

FWIW, of course.

Posted by: Michael Blowhard on May 8, 2009 8:56 AM



"I reiterate: dumbest post and dumberer comment thread ever."

And you keep showing up.

Posted by: Stu Pidd on May 8, 2009 9:34 AM



* Would Apple finally rule the world if it ever came out with an aggressively priced computer?

Yes.

* What would the federal government do if (fill in states' names) actually seceded?

Yank all Fed support and watch the madness ensue.

* Would academia, the mainstream media and the other usual suspects support him if Barack Obama proclaimed himself President-for-Life?

No, they would go apeshit. As they should. C'mon. What a bunch of whiners righties are. And funny how something that was actually close to a reality under Bush is now being floated as something Obama would do. When will we ever get out of the wingnut house of mirrors?

Posted by: yahmdallah on May 8, 2009 10:58 AM



"It is impossible to make any sense at all of that statement."

That's ok, we don't expect a lot from you.

Posted by: Upstate Guy on May 8, 2009 10:59 AM



Another example of upporters of Obama being critical when he deserves it and capable of thinking for themselves:

LINK

"No, academia, the media, and "the other usual suspects" would not support him if he did that"

No, not all!

Posted by: A New Day, Brothers on May 8, 2009 11:43 AM



Upstate, brrrr!

You are saying Obama is less likely than Bush to do something that Bush did not do. The likelihood of a past event that did not occur is zero. So Obama is less likely to do something with a zero likelihood. I get it now!

As for yamdallah's comment: And funny how something that was actually close to a reality under Bush is now being floated as something Obama would do. When will we ever get out of the wingnut house of mirrors?

You call righties wingnuts? Kettle! Pot! Rendezvous! Hang out! Spend some time!

Jesus! Now Bush is being pilloried not for what he did, but what he might have done but didn't do but was more likely to have done but didn't than Obama is likely to do but won't?

Okay.

Sorry about you not expecting more from me, Upstate. After long experience, I've learned not to expect anything like sense or a straightforward response from intellectually bankrupt partisan leftist hacks like you.

Posted by: PatrickH on May 8, 2009 1:41 PM



Oh, and by the way, the likelihood of Obama declaring himself P for L is ZERO OBVIOUSLY.

And the likelihood of the most rabidly left-wing media supporting him as P for L if for some UTTERLY INSANE reason he declared himself such is also ZERO OBVIOUSLY FREAKING ZERO.

And the likelihood of secession is ZERO TOTALLY COMPLETELY ZERO IT CAN'T GET MORE ZERO THAN THE ZERO OF ITS UTTER ABSOLUTE ZERO-NESS.

P.S. I am a right-wing wingnut nutbar nutty nut, but I think--even in my insane evil right-wing withered blasted heart--that poor farkin' Obama should be given at least a BIT OF A FARKING CHANCE to get some policies in place, get some stuff done. Just a chance, seeing as how he's, oh, a little over a hundred days into his frackin' goldarned Presidency (for four years NOT LIFE)?

Like, maybe, just a chance?

That is all.

Posted by: PatrickH on May 8, 2009 1:54 PM



Regarding Macs:

Maybe my modest Midwestern upbringing has left me at a disadvantage when it comes to perceived status gained by material things like clothes, cars, and computers, as I could care less how people are judging me for my computer (or car). Shoe snobs are the most confounding of all to me.

If I could get a full mac system for around $300, as I can with a decently loaded PC, I would buy a couple (because the kids would never let me use mine if they didn't have one, too).

The supposed cheap mac - the mac mini - is still $600 for a very basic system, and that's just the cpu/hd/dvd. I still have to spring for monitor, keyboard, and a mouse if I don't have them already.

I agree with M. Blowhard that the mac user experience is superior to a windows box (especially if you've had to use Vista). The only place Microsoft still owns is its office suite, but OpenOffice is a very viable alternative, and it will be my software of choice on newer systems that won't run my way old version of MS office.

Or if I can afford a mac.

Posted by: yahmdallah on May 8, 2009 3:57 PM




Of course, Obama would not try to be president for life if he has any sense. Politics has become a sort of a hot potato game. Look at Bush.

It seemed like Bush wanted to get the heck out of Washington before the dire warnings of financial collapse came about while he was still running/ruining the country. He frantically tossed the hot potato to Barack.

Obama is maxing out the U.S. credit card. Right now he is doing it with confidence, but if disaster or disasters strike, he may be looking to hide in a spare room at the ranch in Crawford, too. If we squeak by his term or terms, he can toss the potato to Hillary. If the storm clouds are gathering, he will toss it to a Republican.

In the near future, though, some unlucky pol is going to be stuck holding a white phosphorous potato. We can then all unite as one people, one nation to say: OUCH.
sN

Posted by: sN on May 9, 2009 3:50 AM



1) No. The annoying Mac commercials by themselves would prevent that.

2) Probably nothing. It would depend on what kind of president was in office, though. Civil War II is not in the cards.

3) Sure--but not without a fig-leaf of some kind.

Posted by: thaprof on May 9, 2009 6:19 PM



Quidnunc: "Loyal forces have to get there to stop the seizure before those weapons get grabbed and dispersed by secesh forces. If federal troops try to retake the seized weapons..."

Apparently you think nuclear weapons are left sitting in warehouses with no protection beyond a watchman and some padlocks.

In fact all nuclear weapons are held on Federal military bases, protected by thousands of heavily armed guards.

For instance, Malmstrom AFB in Montana is one of the three bases where Minuteman ICBMs with nuclear warheads are located. There are 150 ICBMs there. Malmstrom also has a 1,200-man Security Forces Squadron specifically assigned to protect the missiles. The missile facilities are themselves "hard targets", built to resist nuclear attack (to survive airbursts and near-misses).

You think that, say, some Montana state police could walk in and seize control?

"Look what happened in the former Yugoslavia."

Yugoslavia is no model for the U.S. Its divisions were linguistic and religious borders that were many centuries old. Army and regional security forces were organized into ethnically distinct units for linguistic reasons. There were extremely bloody internal struggles between Yugoslavian ethnic groups within living memory.

Posted by: Rich Rostrom on May 9, 2009 7:30 PM



"Apparently you think nuclear weapons are left sitting in warehouses with no protection beyond a watchman and some padlocks.

In fact all nuclear weapons are held on Federal military bases, protected by thousands of heavily armed guards.

For instance, Malmstrom AFB in Montana is one of the three bases where Minuteman ICBMs with nuclear warheads are located. There are 150 ICBMs there. Malmstrom also has a 1,200-man Security Forces Squadron specifically assigned to protect the missiles. The missile facilities are themselves "hard targets", built to resist nuclear attack (to survive airbursts and near-misses).

You think that, say, some Montana state police could walk in and seize control?"

Rich, whatever could go wrong with all the security and everything?

LINK


"Yugoslavia is no model for the U.S. Its divisions were linguistic and religious borders that were many centuries old. Army and regional security forces were organized into ethnically distinct units for linguistic reasons. There were extremely bloody internal struggles between Yugoslavian ethnic groups within living memory."

Yugoslavia isn't a model, just an example. Why there has never been any racial, ethnic or political discord in the US. Perish the thought!

Posted by: Unlocked Footlocker on May 12, 2009 12:01 PM



Lots -- perhaps most -- computer scientists use Macs because it is Unix under the hood. You don't need to do any hackery with Cygwin to get the raw power of the command line at your disposal -- Terminal.app is right there.

If you use Windows you are probably not a highly technical person. Some people default into Windows because the only language they know how to code in is Matlab. But if you're doing data analysis, compiler design, physics, bioinformatics, statistics...Macs are where it's at.

Why waste time trying to find the latest version of a given file (linear searching the hard drive!) when you can do something like

locate foo | xargs ls -alrth

and get it instantly?

Note that these reasons are the complete opposite of Michael Blowhard's reasons. Both nontechnical and hypertechnical people prefer Macs. That is a very unstable situation for Windows market share.

Posted by: gc on May 13, 2009 4:31 AM



"Lots -- perhaps most -- computer scientists use Macs because it is Unix under the hood. You don't need to do any hackery with Cygwin to get the raw power of the command line at your disposal -- Terminal.app is right there."

This. The move from sun workstations to Macs has been commonplace in the sciences over the past few years (and trust me, most scientists have little interest in status objects). With my Mac, I can use cool, Mac-y things like iPhoto and iTunes, write documents in Word, or open a xterm window and pop up latex, idl, etc. And all on a platform that I find stable and intuitive.

I find the reverse snobbery of anti-Mac folks amusing.

Posted by: CyndiF on May 14, 2009 11:53 AM






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