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June 16, 2009

From the WSJ

Michael Blowhard writes:

Dear Blowhards --

A couple of good pieces from the Wall Street Journal:

* Paul Starobin takes stock of secessionist rumblings, and wonders what a devolved U.S. might look like.

* Paul Berkowitz argues that, if poli-sci departments can spare resources to teach feminist and postmodern political theory, they ought to do a better job of teaching the history of conservativism.

* MBlowhard Rewind: I confessed that I've gotten a lot out of wrestling with rightie thought.

* Bonus links: Don't miss our interview with the brilliant traditionalist conservative Jim Kalb: Part One, Part Two, Part Three. Buy Jim's fab book here.



UPDATE: Rick Darby volunteers some smart reactions to Paul Starobin's secession piece.

posted by Michael at June 16, 2009


* Paul Starobin takes stock of secessionist rumblings, and wonders what a devolved U.S. might look like.

I just don't ever want to hear again that liberals hate America when all the "rumblings" of SECESSION are from the right. And when the old confederacy is the GOP's base. And when some professional Republican politicians still fly the Confederate flag.

Posted by: JewishAtheist on June 16, 2009 10:52 AM

Posted by JewishAtheist at June 16, 2009

Did you read the article? Seriously, did you? Did you read the part about Vermont, that hot bed of Reich Wingerism? In case you didn't, here it is again:

"But it is not as if the Right has a lock on this issue: Vermont, the seat of one of the most vibrant secessionist movements, is among the country’s most politically-liberal places. Vermonters are especially upset about imperial America’s foreign excursions in hazardous places like Iraq."

One Senator from Vermont is a "democratic socialist?" Do you know who it is?

And the only Klansman in the Senate is a Democrat...Guess who?

And you know what I like about you Jewish Atheist? You're predictable, you never do any research on anything and you never miss a chance to make an ass out of yourself and show everyone how ignorant you are. Put some effort into a comment, for once.

Posted by: Floater on June 16, 2009 11:55 AM

I reread the Jim Kalb interview. Even though I am libertarian to the bone, I find much of what Jim Kalb has to say to be quite reasonable. My number one beef with the conservatives (as something distinct from libertarianism) is the hostility that some of them express towards healthy life extension.

Opposition to use of embryos in making stem cells is a legitimate position. However, opposition to healthy life extension in general, as typified by people like Leon Kass, is illegitimate and completely unacceptable.

The conservatives need to get rid of this "pro-aging trance" if they are to successfully market their ideas to me.

Posted by: kurt9 on June 16, 2009 2:17 PM


No, I didn't read the article. This is the first time I've heard of any secessionist musings from Vermont. My apologies.

Posted by: JewishAtheist on June 16, 2009 2:38 PM

The most interesting link seemed to me to the one about adding historical overview courses on conservatism to college Poli Sci offerings. This is an excellent idea ... although likely to have some of the same inherent problems as feminist, African-American, and similar identity group courses. The line between objectively studying these topics and either advocating or critiquing the underlying principles behind them can be tough for both students and faculty to walk without slipping up. And it presupposes similar courses about the history and evolution of liberalism as well, which might, depending on your own POV be a good or a bad thing.

Posted by: Chris White on June 16, 2009 3:49 PM

JA: I just don't ever want to hear again that liberals hate America when all the "rumblings" of SECESSION are from the right. And when the old confederacy is the GOP's base. And when some professional Republican politicians still fly the Confederate flag.

Apropos of which, the comments to that article are pretty fun, e.g., this lady:

You know what Ed, after eight solid years of hearing liberals do nothing but run this country down in often the most vulgar fashion, I finally understand what you're talking about. Perhaps for completely different reasons, I finally agree with liberals that we are not the greatest country, and we should be ashamed of ourselves. Isn't that what you all have been trying to convince me of? You win!!! To paraphrase our first lady, "I'm not proud anymore."

But in all seriousness, anyone who wants to understand what's going on in this country needs to ditch the left v. right spectacles. People still mewling "you blue-state commies!", "you rethuglicans!" have got their heads up their butts. (But P.S. to unreconstructed label-lefties: dudes, we already know you hate Southerners. We don't care.)

Posted by: Moira Breen on June 16, 2009 4:18 PM

The could start by teaching the history of conservatism to the freaking Republicans.

Posted by: Bhh on June 16, 2009 5:13 PM

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