Moira: I meant, a "real" part of the Americas, with a dominant to serious role for the Spanish language, Latin American culture (even Argentina, Chile and Uruguay are not immune), and a society that is racially characterized by a heavy to extreme presence of Mesticization - the marriage of the two great races of Amerindian and White European. There's also mulattization, but that's not quite as much of a factor.

The US and Canada have not really been a part of the Americas in the real sense due to the lack (or low levels) of Spanish language, Latin American culture (Catholicism, corruption, collectivism, extremes of Left and Right and rich and poor), and Mesticization/mulattization. Much of Latin American culture is derived from Spain or Southern Europe and the US and Canada's was always derived from Northern Europe.

We can end up more like Argentina - Chile and less like Mexico is we halt or slow down this demographic process or switch to allowing in a higher quality of Latino immigrants.

Settler-colonial Canada may break up because it was settled by two distinct nations of settlers, one of whom formed a monoethnic and monolinguistic unit in Quebec. That has generally not been the case elsewhere. All or almost all breakups around the world are based on long-standing actual nations (not immigrant groupings or class lines) seeking to break away and form their own nations. We simply do not have the requirements for that in the US, except maybe in Hawaii, but even there, it won't happen.

This is why there have been no separatist movements in Israel, South Africa, New Zealand, Australia, the Americas (crucially, except Quebec), etc.

The only intact nations that might break away would be native Americans, and they don't want to. Neither will Maori separatism go anywhere.

The class-intended breakup of Bolivia and possibly Venezuela will not occur. I'm not aware of any serious class-based separatist movement in the world today or historically.

The Mexican upper and lower classes do not act all that much different from the Argentine or Chilean upper and lower classes. That's what I meant by our choice.

Even if all the illegals left tomorrow, there is still a huge anchor baby base in the US. I am in California at Ground Zero. Hispanics are now a majority in the schools here. Further, many Whites are starting to marry into Hispanic families and vice versa. Looking at White families who have been in California 100 yrs or so, quite a few of them now have Hispanics (Mexicans) somewhere in their families, if not in their own gene lines.

That's what I mean. It's a lot more insidious than just illegal immigration, which isn't stopping anyway. The economy is in the dumps, but this town is still half illegal aliens.

Worse, when a state become illegal-inundated, remaining Whites run up the red flag, go native, whatever. You can't even discuss illegals in this town. If you bring it up with Hispanics, you're asking for a fight since 85% of them support the illegals. If you bring it up with other Whites, the conversation is almost always shut down quickly, and usually the White person takes a pro-illegal stance.

The illegal problem really needs to be dealt with when there is still a small number of illegals in the state and lot of angry White people. As the state gets more inundated, Whites tend to surrender or flee more than fight harder.

I don't see E-verify being implemented, or the anchor baby process being reversed, any time soon. Obama does not look promising in that regard.

Posted by: Robert Lindsay on November 28, 2008 9:30 PM

Mark, I am still a socialist. Actually, I am a revolutionary socialist who supports the armed Left in Colombia, India, Philippines, Palestine, etc. I support the govts of Venezuela, Nepal and Cuba.

My beef is that the Left has always been about economics, not race and gender. This is the old conversation about Identity Politics going back to the 1960's.

The Western Left is utterly hostile to White workers, esp White male workers. It's in love with racist philosophies like Afrocentrism and the Atzlanistas. I have White worker friends who say they are Communists but have nothing but contempt for the Western Left which they see as hostile to White workers.

I have some very serious issues with radical feminism on the Left too, which is puritanical and opposed to the spirit of the Sexual Revolution of the 1960's that I still believe in. Further, once again, it's hostile towards men. Hence, I am now a masculinist, and I argue that this is a revolutionary philosophy the same way feminism is.

I still support affirmative action, etc. I just think that there are differences in the races. The notion that differential racial outcomes is all due to White racism is unscientific and more and more resembles hate speech against Whites. Anyway, in this part of California, the only discrimination I see is against White people. Hispanics run everything here - how can they be oppressed?

Male homosexuals are born that way. The rest are not really of consequence. I came of age in the music - artist - writer scene in Los Angeles and Hollywood in the 1980's, so I know all about homosexuality (though I'm str8). It's not the bugaboo it's made out to be, and I'm not convinced that gay adoption has been proven to be harmful. Homosexuality is not a contagious disease that spreads through society.

If you want to have lots of sex in Leftist circles and you have other stuff going for you, just start hanging out and make open and clear how sick and tired you are all of all the faggotry - wimpiness with the guys and rampant lesbianism - male fear/hatred among the Feminazis.

You will quickly be labeled a disgusting reactionary sexist pig scum of the Earth, but a lot of the women (including the Feminazis) will want to have sex with you, because they really want a macho brute deep down inside. Feminists and Leftists are really just regular people like everyone else once you strip off the dressing.

I support gun control, and I'm a "gender realist" the same way I'm a race realist. A lot of sane feminists are coming around to the view that sexual equality is neither possible nor desirable in the bedroom.

I'm constantly challenging my Leftist beliefs for many years now and asking myself why I don't become a conservative. Haven't found a good reason yet.

Posted by: Robert Lindsay on November 28, 2008 9:56 PM

PA: fear not; our traitorous ruling class here in Canada is hell-bent on making us a mini-United Nations, so while Islamicisation is proceeding to an extent, so is Hinduization, Sikhization, Buddhizations, Africanization, Asianization, etc. We needn't fear Europe's dhimmitude fate, here. Rather, we'll just cease to be anything like the old Canada; of course, we already have. The Old Canada, of the Group of Seven, of Al Purdy, of George Parkin Grant, of Ontario Orangeism, is long dead.

Posted by: Will S. on November 29, 2008 12:16 AM

Robert,

Your comments are simply hilarious.

I suggest that you move to small town Iowa and live there for about 10 years.

The atmosphere you live in has just about nothing to do with America. You're living in the middle of a bunch of juvenile drama queens. They have long since lost touch with the world outside of movie making and academic babbling.

You would benefit tremendously by living for a decade among people who never feel it necessary to declare themselves as belonging to any ideological or sexual cult. Go meet some people who actually work in factories, on farms, etc.

This will cure you of the preposterous obsessions of Los Angeles poseurs.

Posted by: Shouting Thomas on November 29, 2008 7:43 AM

"...the preposterous obsessions of Los Angeles poseurs."

Shouting Thomas, that may have been one of your choicest phrases to date.

Posted by: Charlton Griffin on November 29, 2008 10:54 AM

"Go meet some people who actually work in factories, on farms, etc."

I ask you, ST, why? I've nothing against them as groups, of course, but why are people in these types of occupations always presented as more authentic or as having something to teach those of us who don't do those jobs? I worked in factory after high school, and I've been around ranchers having grown up in a rural town. A lot of those people are bitter assholes. I took a look around and quickly decided to get the fuck out of there.

Of course, there are a lot of good people in those jobs as well. But hey, for the most part, I've got nothing to say to them and they've got nothing to say to me. God bless each of us for having the inclination and skill to do our respective jobs. But no way in hell will I accept either of us as somehow more authentic.

That said, of course cities are teeming with assholes, just different types than you'll find in rural areas. Or I don't know, probably the same types, just manifested in different ways.

Posted by: JV on November 29, 2008 2:07 PM

I ask you, ST, why? I've nothing against them as groups, of course, but why are people in these types of occupations always presented as more authentic or as having something to teach those of us who don't do those jobs?

Point taken, JV, but isn't Richard talking about the loss of identity that comes from growing up amongst all the various factions of LA hipsters? While I also found something lacking in working in the factory (which I've done), I wouldn't give up the rock solid identity I gained from growing up in rural Illinois for... well, anything. At least, I know what it is to be a man. Most people in any place are beholden to the crowd. If you are going to be beholden to the crowd, you are a lot better off in traditional Illinois. The values of the crowd are better there.

The destruction of tradition that has been the mania of the identity obsessed left leaves a man a completely empty shell to be filled up with ideology and fashion. I have an indestructible core that isn't open to manipulation... a gift of my upbringing in a traditional society.

Certainly, assholes can be found anywhere... just as you say.

I watched a movie last night that really delves into the collapse of tradition and identity that began in the 60s... "Little Big Man." It's a fascinating movie. I haven't seen it in 35 years. In traditional 60s fashion, everything gets turned upside down. White men are genocidal fools. Indians are noble savages living in the Garden of Eden. General Custer was a preening megalomaniac and genocidal fool. All Christians are hypocrites who are secretly committing adultery at every opportunity.

50 years of tearing apart tradition has left quite a mess. It's so bad that many heteros are engaging in homosexual behavior to be fashionable. (I don't buy the innate theory... well, certainly for some homosexuality is innate.) Heteros in the hip communities are under such pressure to at least pretend to be homosexual that the world of the hip is now full of closet heteros.

When people twist their sexual behavior, and engage in sexual acts that are antithetical to their nature for the approval of the crowd... well, you are in the nascent stages of fascism.

Posted by: Shouting Thomas on November 29, 2008 5:39 PM

you are a lot better off in traditional Illinois.

Shouting - I spent a couple of days once going from Paducah, KY, through Carbondale, IL, to St. Louis. This was in the mid-90s. Southern Illinois. Is that where you're from?

Posted by: PA on November 29, 2008 9:40 PM

PA,

Pretty close. One of my sisters went to SIU in Carbondale.

I'm from the middle of nowhere near Kankakee. Steve Goodman immortalized the town in "City of New Orleans".

"Train pulls out of Kankakee."

Casey Stengel played his first minor league baseball in Kankakee in 1910.

Since then, nothing much has happened in Kankakee. You can watch the corn grow, if you're looking for entertainment. A stock car race and demolition derby runs every fall out at the fairgrounds.

Posted by: Shouting Thomas on November 30, 2008 8:41 AM

Comrades! Robert Lindsay has no right to speak unless he is fully on board with the multicultural agenda.

You will be overjoyed (as in, jumping up and down in glee) to learn that Lindsay's blog has been taken down. "In violation of Blogger's terms of service" reads the message.

Comrades! No room for racists! Crush fascism under the iron boot of correct thoughts!

Think correct thoughts...must think correct thoughts...! Oh no. Click here.

Posted by: S. Gruber on December 6, 2008 9:10 PM






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