James Dudek,

The reason people look for various reasons for poverty with other racial groups is that there are examples of success for some or most countries comprised of those racial groups, but for africans, there are none. Zero.

It has been amply demonstrated, through many, many millions of sets of data, and every single test of mental aptitude ever devised, that this is due to a difference in intelligence. In fact, it is not our job in any way to prove our point--it is one of the most well-documented and indisputable ones ever seen--it is your job to prove otherwise. Prove to us that these people are equivalent. All you have are airy sentiments and a feeling of moral superiority, completely unfounded and easily refuted.

Did anyone notice that these people are barely able to achieve subsistence living when independent, and when given subsidy, did not use it to improve their lives, but simply stopped working since their base needs were fulfilled? Does this sound familiar? In essence, all the money spent for the subsidy could have been equally well-employed by raking it into a pile and burning it.

The bigger question is, since we now know that these people are incapable of achieving any kind of advanced civilization independently, what hope is there of assimilation into more advanced civilizations on an equal basis? The answer is that there is no hope. They can't exist here without subsidy. They are subsidized with affirmative action, welfare, and other wealth transfer programs, and rather than innovate and advance, they simply displace other workers by illegal racial preference in existing companies, lower standards, reduce output, and create a grievance industry to further entrench the subsidy system. In addition, they ruin cities, commit horrendous amounts of crime (including affirmative action, which is illegal), and coarsen and debase all cultures that pander to them. A giant millstone.

These people will never assimilate, ever. I agree, we need to stop subsidizing africa in all its forms, both here and abroad, let society stratify and segregate, and let nature take its course. There is no proof that any of this makes our country better, safer, or more prosperous, in fact quite the opposite, and I can't think of any sane person who would advocate making a country worse, more dangerous, or poorer and call it good unless they were mentally deranged. The experiment failed. Its over. We know too much now. Its only a matter of time until these people bankrupt us and the world returns to the previous order anyway. Stop trying to delude us, and more importantly, stop trying to delude yourself.

Posted by: BIOH on June 14, 2007 1:04 PM

Lessee now... No Africans ever achieved an advanced civilization.

You mean, like the Egyptians, way back when? How about the Moors?

Posted by: Peter L. Winkler on June 14, 2007 6:52 PM

Peter,

Look at the hieroglyphs--the egyptians were not black. Their nubian slaves were though. Same with the muslims of northern Africa. Not black. The arabs like black slaves too, by the way.

Thanks for trying though. It's interesting you had to go back hundreds or thousands of years to attempt to find an example. Nothing happening lately, eh?

Posted by: BIOH on June 14, 2007 7:29 PM

It's interesting, because obviously the citizens cannot afford to sustain an economy.

That's when welfare comes in. Human life ought to be valued over the building of their economy. A few questions I have are: "Where were these skilled workers before?" "Why did they emerge post the failing of all African societies? "Is Africa ready to sustain or even transition to self sustainment?" "What steps have people taken to ensure that they have 21 century

The stuff we're sending over isn't top notch stuff. Basic food and ugly clothes. For the Kenyan (and wow - there's a country that is being transitioned into the most stable country because of aid and teachings from various groups including the Southern Baptist) "economist" to make his suggestions - well he's intellectually dishonest.

The African's aren't lazy - they are poor and knowledgeable.

Ali A. Akbar
aliakbar.net

Posted by: Ali A. Akbar on June 19, 2007 6:39 AM

Africa is diverse.

Aid is needed in many disasters.

Aid is needed to jumpstart the infrastructure.

Alas, much of the "aid" goes to the rich plutocrats.

The note to stop aid is not to allow people to starve, but about seeing Africans as an investment partner, so that African entrepeneurs can prosper.

As for racial smears of some of the above comments, maybe they can explain why Africans prosper in the UK and USA, just like Pinoys prosper. But in their native countries, it is almost impossible to do business due to corrupt government.

Posted by: Nancy Reyes on June 19, 2007 6:06 PM






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