the "elites vs. us". Exactly. One of the things that absolutely drives me crazy on the immigration question is that those who can isolate themselves from all of the down side of the massive immigration (legal & illegal) that the US has seen in the last 25 years or so - the "elites" - not only want to force the rest of us to have to deal with these side effects, which they can avoid because of wealth, power, or connections, but also want to label those of us who refuse to sign up and knuckle under as racists and xenophobes.

Posted by: D Flinchum on July 6, 2006 7:17 PM

I think you and they are on to something.

These days, I have less repubs vs. demos debates than, discussions about whether any politico cares about the topics we're interested in.

I could give a flip about flag burning (though I hate to see old glory desecrated), gay marriage, and so on - the things they keep trying to focus us on. I'm worried about health care, that layoffs seem to be way too easy for companies, and that utility monopolies literally double their prices every year.

Posted by: Yahmdallah on July 7, 2006 9:39 AM

The problem with the formulation is that both the "elites" and "us" are deeply divided groups with sharply different interests. Fragmentation is everywhere and solidarity is not.

Posted by: jult52 on July 7, 2006 3:15 PM






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