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June 09, 2005

Immigration, On the Spot

Michael Blowhard writes:

Dear Blowhards --

A couple of reports from border states appeared as comments on a recent posting. I can't resist highlighting them.

From Cowtown Pattie:

As a Texas native, I can tell you that the flow of both legal and illegal Mexican immigrants is out of control. If you are interested, this FAIR link gives a insightful accounting of the actual cost of this problem.

I hear all the arguments in regards to the illegal worker's tax contributions benefitting the legal residents, but the truth is, the burden is growing far heavier than the coffers are.

Our own state governor and legislature have forsaken any attempt at reform or control, and have opted instead to give college tuition benefits to illegal aliens.

This is a tense subject in Texas. I do not wish to look down on anyone or any race for wanting to better themselves, but a strangulation hold on the lifeguard will kill both drowning victim and his saviour.

Texas culture and history is tightly entwined with her neighbors to the south, and we owe much to their influence along with that of the Germans and other European settlers. However, that being said, I do not wish to be assimilated back into Mexico.

And from Kris:

Here in Arizona, immigration is simply out of control. The citizens of Arizona passed some sort of referendum in the past election that was supposed to report/return illegals who received public benefits. Since the past election, only TWO illegals have been questioned, and no one knows the outcome of that questioning.

In this way, the will of ordinary voting citizens is ignored by public "servants." So sadly, I second what Cowtown Pattie above wrote. She’s right: Immigration is a huge, huge mess. Here, public institutions -- libraries, schools, etc. -- are being duplicated by a parallel set of private institutions. Private libraries. Private security. Private schools. Gated communities with private roads. The list of once-public-now-private is endless. Replacing public with private is, essentially, the only recourse people have when their collective will is ignored. Because of uncontrolled immigration, citizens vote with their feet, leaving public institutions. And with their pocketbooks. It won't be long when citizens "defund" so-called "public" institutions, and in doing so, diminish the reach of government.

My own hunch is that the immigration mess is shaping up as a hot-spot political issue -- one that highlights the enormous and growing gap between the actions of our political elites and the druthers of actual citizens.

Thanks to Cowtown Pattie and to Kris. Don't miss Pattie's touching memoir about her grandfather-in-law.

Best,

Michael

posted by Michael at June 9, 2005




Comments

Hello!

I think immigration is an issue in any country, region, or even simply neighborhood to neighborhood. The "originals" usually resent the "newcommers" and the "newcommers" try to keep some of their own original heritage/lifestyle as well. To me it seems unfortunately impossible to find a holistic and pleasant solution to this issue for either side.

I haven’t seen you in quite a while at my blog and wanted to invite you to a return read. I really appreciate comments and suggestions.

Thank you!

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Posted by: PipeTobacco on June 10, 2005 11:04 AM



I'm an "Anglo." Their word. And I don't like the culture of "Hispanics." My word. There. I've said it. The sky will not fall on me. I have simply stated a dislike. But the sky IS falling on "Anglo Culture," simply because of the terror of being tagged with the R word.

Posted by: ricpic on June 10, 2005 11:40 AM



I recommend Samuel P. Huntington's book: Who Are We. He reminds us that we became who we are because the founding settlers were British Protestants. They set the template, and immigrants who followed came at a slower pace which made rapid assimilation more likely.

It could be that when we make too many accomodations for those who don't speak English, we rob them of something that will serve them well in the long run: a sense of urgency about learning English as quickly as they can. English should be established as our one official language. This hasn't been necessary in the past, but the time may have come.

Posted by: Bill on June 10, 2005 2:05 PM



My guess is that powerful business interests are privately letting our elected representatives know that they better not enforce immigration law. How else explain it? Not until politicians start losing elections over the issue will anything change.

Posted by: Luke Lea on June 10, 2005 4:58 PM



"... the immigration mess is shaping up as a hot-spot political issue."

If only this would be true, but it seems it's staying a non political issue because the elites won't touch it; the Left so they can feel morally righteous about their tolerance of others and to hasten the multicultural destruction of all standards that they feel constrain them, and the right for the more pragmatic reason of cheap labor.

There's no demand at all amongst those who control the levers of power to change the status quo, so it's not bloody likely. Sure, us common people don't like it, but it's not like we count for anything if both the left and right elites want differntly. Course, the Democrats could actually win back the South if they took a populist line of supporting the poor citizens from unfair competition and crime of illegal alieans, but their too much of dumb dreamers to play practical politics.

The only way it might really become a political issue is if some third party populist party were to emerge in the south and show that controlled immigration would be a huge vote getter. Losing congressional seats might actually make the big parties notice the issue and start paying more attention to what their constituents want. I wouldn't hold my breath though...

Posted by: zetjintsu on June 10, 2005 5:12 PM



The Republicans should argue to black voters that the immigration policy is racist (which I believe it is) because just as they were finally gaining their full rights as Americans, the elites decided to kick the ladder out from underneath them by admitting millions of people from around the world to swamp the labor market, keep their wages down and their asses in the ghetto.

Posted by: lindenen on June 10, 2005 6:07 PM



Millions of Mexicans are fleeing FROM Mexico TO the United States, legally and illegally. The Mexican elites should be deeply embarrassed by this. They should be ashamed that the society they run is such a phenomenal failure. And we should be looking at why the US is the country of destination. There is a reason that the US is successful and Mexico is not. And why Mexicans are successful in the US rather than in Mexico. We should learn the lesson from this and reinforce what it is that has made the US successful and do everything we can to eradicate what has made Mexico a country worth fleeing.

Posted by: phil on June 10, 2005 8:55 PM



Phil, as far as the Mexican elites are concerned their country is not a failure. After all, they're extremely well off (the average net worth of millionaries in Hispanic countries is much greater than in US), the poor are fairly complacent, and the US provides a nice safety valve ensuring that things stay that way.

As for doing everything we can to "eradicate" what makes Mexico bad, I'm a little tired of US invading countries in the name of nation buidling, but if you insist I'll let you be the first to take up the bayonet and charge for Le Revolution:)

Posted by: zetjintsu on June 10, 2005 10:46 PM



Let me suggest to Kris that he has misread those private institutions and gated communities. They are not the "only recourse" of people whose "will has been ignored." If he looks closer he'll see that the groundskeepers, janitors, maids and nannies they employ are illegal immigrants. Who's mowing the green on the 9th hole? For that matter, who sliced the steak for sale in your local supermarket? The way to stop illegal immigration motivated by jobs is for Mexico to tend to its economy and for the U.S. to hit the employers hard, even behind the gates of their so-called communities.

Posted by: Rhys on June 11, 2005 10:14 AM



Mexico's elites are happy to see the lower class leave because they know that lower class is not bright. They are foisting their dummies off on us. We are foolish enough to let them.

When you hear Mexico's elite talk about the great value of Mexican workers know that they are lying and laughing at us behind closed doors.

Posted by: Randall Parker on June 19, 2005 12:55 PM






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