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September 11, 2002

Nietzsche

Michael

I haven't spent a whole lot of time on Nietzsche lately myself, although from time to time I have pondered how his writings, bursting with contempt for late 19th century socialism, could have been hijacked by the left.

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As best I can tell, without making an extensive study of post-modern thought (for which I will never, ever have time or interest) post-modernists were enraptured when they read that Nietzsche denied the "objectivity" of human thought and pointed out the primacy of the "will to power"--and then just took the bit between their teeth and galloped off to pursue their left-wing agendas, feeling empowered to say or do anything in their pursuit of power--oops, I meant to say, in their pursuit of perfect social justice for the oppressed and equality between the sexes.

Nietzsche, on the other hand, as best I can tell, was attempting to treat logic, morality, etc., from an evolutionary (biological) point of view. In other words, Nietzsche was opposed to the ahistorical, acultural idealism of German philosophy of his day, e.g., Kant, who segregated mental processes into a priori ideas (that provide an "organizational context" for experience, such as 3-dimensional space, time, etc.) on the one hand and concepts derived from experience on the other, thus raising the a priori ideas far above any historical or cultural context.

In other words, Nietzsche is saying that we use all ideas (a priori as well as experiential) because they are useful, and will use other ones when the current set become useless--not because a particular set of ideas are, in some Platonic/metaphysical sense, true now and true always, as the idealists keep trying to suggest.

I think Nietzsche would have been very amused at the way relativity and quantum mechanics have "blown up" many of the concepts that Kant (man of the 18th century that he was) assumed lived safely in the pristine, crystaline world of the a priori.

None of this is to say, however, that Nietzsche considered himself or the concept of "usefulness" as above mere "facts," and especially not above inconvenient facts. In his Darwinian world, vital new thought had to pass the test of usefulness--it really had to "work" (e.g., using structural mechanics to design bridges that have stood for centuries) or it would be found out and rejected by power-seeking humanity, (e.g. Marxism-Leninism.)

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I think he would have had the greatest scorn for the post-modernists and their sloppy thoughts, which appear to have all the long term usefulness of schemes developed by con men. Maybe I'm wrong, but I place Nietzsche in the whole current of modern evolutionary thought along with Darwin, Hayek, and sociobiology.

Cheers, of a "Joyful Science" sort,

Friedrich

posted by Friedrich at September 11, 2002




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My thoughts exactly. Also Daniel Dennett's. According to this website http://www.santafe.edu/~shalizi/notebooks/dennett.html
Daniel Dennett regards Nietzsche as the 'second sociobiologist' (Hobbes was first)

Posted by: Jason Soon on September 18, 2002 6:54 AM






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