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December 31, 2008

Architecture, Insane and Sane

Michael Blowhard writes:

Dear Blowhards --

The New Statesman publishes a ringing and defiant defence of Le Corbusier, in my book one of the most destructive and pernicious artists of all time. The writer, Jonathan Meades, can't resist accusing those who dislike Le Corbusier of being "tectonically blind anti-modernists"; "one wonders whether they had eyes to put out in the first place."

Note the usual modernist strategy at play here: If you dislike what I like, it can only because you don't get it -- because, in other words, you're an idiot. The possibility that a person may "get it" yet dislike it anyway can never entertained; it's a simple item of modernist faith that "getting it" must equal "loving it." And does anyone have any idea what the hell Meades could mean by "tectonically blind"?

An antidote to the madness is this terrific, if too short, P2P interview with architectural theorist Nikos Salingaros about "peer-to-peer urbanism." For a comprehensive interview with Nikos, scroll to the top of this blog's page, click on "Interviews," and help yourself to a mind-blowing five-parter.

Best,

Michael

posted by Michael at December 31, 2008




Comments

Meades' writing is on a par with Le Corbusier's designs. He'll be flattered.

He shouldn't be.

Posted by: Robert Townshend on December 31, 2008 7:24 AM



When you write "If you dislike what I like, it can only because you don't get it -- because, in other words, you're an idiot. The possibility that a person may "get it" yet dislike it anyway can never entertained; it's a simple item of modernist faith that "getting it" must equal "loving it."

At the risk of belaboring the obvious, isn't it exactly the same, in reverse, when you attack anyone who DOES like modernism?
"If you like what I dislike, it can only because you don't get it -- because, in other words, you're an idiot. The possibility that a person may "get it" yet like it anyway can never entertained; it's a simple item of anti-modernist faith that "getting it" must equal "hating it."

Posted by: Chris White on December 31, 2008 8:12 AM



Robert -- I'll cosign that. (And I'll feel very young using the term "cosign" too.)

Chris -- I think there are numerous differences, and things that should be taken into account.
1) The modernist, Corbusier-lovin' crowd represents 98% of the official architecture world. It's weird that they're as threatened (or appalled) by the 2% as they are -- they're like Communist Russia getting all glowering and offended and threatened by Czechoslovakia.
2) It isn't weird that the 2% would feel a little picked-on, is it? Do you routinely criticize persecuted minorities for being unfair in their response to a bullying majority? BTW, the trad architecture people really are picked-on. People who simply prefer trad architecture, let alone those who work in the field, are treated as idiots, even fascists by profs, foundations, critics, etc.
2) If you can find evidence of me telling people they're idiots (let alone fascists) for simply liking modernist designs, I'll buy you a beer. Heck, I often like modernist design myself -- I'm in many ways an edgier-than-thou downtown guy. It's the impact of modernist architectural practices on the public realm that I dislike.
3) Modernism's record (in architecture) has been appalling. Destroyed inner cities, neighborhoods gone to hell. There's been nothing else like it in all architecture history. Meanwhile trad architecture almost always works out decently, and often very well indeed. This isn't all that controversial -- there was a brief stretch 15ish years ago when even the modernist establishment was being open about how badly modernism had impacted the public realm. I think we can treat it as an objective fact.

It's a clear case of an entrenched elite pissing on the tastes and preferences of everyday people You don't think this is worth pointing out?

Posted by: Michael Blowhard on December 31, 2008 10:32 AM



Jonathan Meades goes to some effort to separate Corbusier's writings about architecture with the buildings he achieved. To simplify, he doesn't much like the former and adores the latter.

Although he finds no trouble separating the two Corbusiers, I do. My guess is that Corbu would have been perfectly happy to grab the commission if, say, the French Government decided to implement his Voisin Plan for Paris. Otherwise, we would have to believe his writings were whimsical or perhaps publicity stunts to build his career. And if they were indeed (gasp!) publicity stunts, then to what extent were his actual buildings also in some ways intended to attract notoriety to the architect?

In other words, I don't think Corbu can be dichotomized as easily as Meades thinks.

Posted by: Donald Pittenger on December 31, 2008 10:46 AM



"The modernist, Corbusier-lovin' crowd represents 98% of the official architecture world. It's weird that they're as threatened (or appalled) by the 2% as they are -- they're like Communist Russia getting all glowering and offended and threatened by Czechoslovakia. "

That's exactly the feeling I get when people (many of them here on this blog) who like traditional art forms, which is the vast majority of the population, complain that they feel pressured to like modernism, and/or complain just because people profess their enjoyment of modernist works.

That said, I'm with you on Le Corbusier. His buildings look like poorly-designed spaceships.

Posted by: JV on December 31, 2008 10:47 AM



Somewhere recently I read an article about Corbu's "Unité d'Habitation" apartments. The concierge had an apartment full of Louis XIV furniture, with lots of frilly drapes, gold-framed paintings and oriental rugs.

Take that Corbu!!!

Posted by: Todd Fletcher on December 31, 2008 11:56 AM



JV, the complain just because people profess their enjoyment of modernist works isn't quite the whole story. As long as I have paid attention to art (50+ years), the Modernist crowd has tended to dismiss realistic/representational/whatever-term-fits art produced since the rise of Impressionism as being inferior. It's the same contemptuous line the Modernist crowd in architecture delivers.

I agree with Michael that the architectural damage is serious. Fortunately, aside from a few huge murals, assemblages and sculptures, "art" is portable enough to be tucked away when it's no longer liked. That's one of the reasons I have for not advocating censoring or abolishing Modernist art. Moreover, I think that Modernist art generally lacks staying power. I suspect Modernists have always realized this, hence their efforts to paint (!) naturalistic (or whatever) art as below the salt.

Posted by: Donald Pittenger on December 31, 2008 12:22 PM



Donald, people who don't like Modernist art routinely dismiss it as not art or "something my kid can do." It goes both ways, and trad art has the advantage of numbers.

Posted by: JV on December 31, 2008 1:01 PM



I am a big fan of Alexander's work, but I don't quite buy what Salingaros says in that linked short interview:

"Christopher Alexander gave the Pattern Language to the world, and if people had read it, it would have liberated every individual from the tyrranical dictates of an architectural and urban machine (in the sense of an oppressive system). "

Most people are not in a position to exercise a great deal of choice over the kinds of buildings in which they live. So, it seems a bit much to say that merely reading Alexander's work will "liberate [them] from the tyrannical dictates" of modernist architects.

Posted by: James on December 31, 2008 1:31 PM



Donald, people who don't like Modernist art routinely dismiss it as not art or "something my kid can do."

Well, lots of it is shit some kid can do. Let's be honest about it:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-499240/Toddler-fools-art-world-buying-tomato-ketchup-paintings.html


Posted by: Paint by # on December 31, 2008 1:37 PM



I want to personally thank Chris White for coming on this blog to give us some liberal comedy. Essentially everything this guy says is hilarious, whether he intends it or not. Please, Chris...don't ever leave us.

Posted by: Bob Grier on December 31, 2008 3:14 PM



Some of this, like the 98% vs. 2% figures pulled from the ether, puts me in mind of a situation that took place during my employment at a contemporary art museum, if from the opposite direction. A reporter from a women artists' newspaper came to do a story on the museum. Her POV was that women were discriminated against by the art world and, as part of that art world, the museum must have regularly failed to give women artists their due.

I researched the museum's exhibition history before the interview and was pleased to tell the reporter that, in fact, over the years women artists represented almost exactly 50% of the artists shown in the museum's signature annual "emerging talents" exhibitions. And three of the four directors had been women. And one of the first feminist art exhibitions had been at the museum. These facts, however, did nothing to alter the reporter's firmly held belief that museums discriminate against women, we were a museum, ergo we discriminated against women.

The same could have been said about realism. While the museum exhibited plenty of realist art, as a contemporary art museum we were tagged as being all about the wild and wacky, the abstract and conceptual. Efforts to convince those who, for whatever reason, feel slighted or ignored by THE ART WORLD, that their concerns are without much basis fall on deaf ears, facts be damned.

One final point, in architecture what fault lies with the architectural elite versus the clients who choose given architects and building designs? If clients seek out certain architects and regularly green light modernist designs how does that mesh with the idea that the vast majority of the populace supposedly hate all things modernist? If the built world has become increasingly modernist isn't this the fault/function of the marketplace more than it is of some conspiracy of entrenched elitists?

Chuckle away there, Bob.

Posted by: Chris White on January 1, 2009 12:58 PM



What I just wrote in comments at the "New Statesman" site:

"Despite what he himself claimed, he was not a utilitarian, not a functionalist, not a rationalist, not an anti-Romantic. The prescription that form should be determined by function is a nonsense that he toyed with in his writing but didn't practise..."

How blessed is M. Jeanneret that, after all this time, Mr. Meades is available to tell us what he *really* meant. And how blessed is Mr. Meades that Jeanneret was so bad at writing, and so hypocritical in failing to do himself what he *said* should be done, that Meades could bravely, modestly step up and explain to us all -- Jeanneret included -- what was *really* meant.

Either that, or Meades is pompous enough to believe that without his help, Jeanneret's reputation would suffer immeasurably, and isn't it a good thing Meades is around to help him out.

I'm so glad the "New Statesman" has given us this humor column. It has given me enough laughter regarding Meades' stated folly and vanity to make a gloomy day pleasant.

Posted by: Hal O'Brien on January 5, 2009 7:05 PM






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