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April 05, 2007

Fact for the Day: L.A.'s Illegals

Michael Blowhard writes:

Dear Blowhards --

12 percent of the 10.2 million residents of Los Angeles County are illegal immigrants. Thirty percent of the county's public health patients are illegal immigrants.

Source.

Best,

Michael

posted by Michael at April 5, 2007




Comments

What percent of the illegal immigrants are decendents of the Mexican people who were forced
back to Mexico because of a gold rush and the "White Power" movement. BTW, How is it all these Califorina cities start their name with "Los" such as the City of Angels.

Cheers

Ken

Posted by: Ken Jones on April 6, 2007 3:42 AM



You've got to hand it to Emperor Bush: he's figured out that he doesn't need to wait for Congress to pass his End of America bill. He just sends word down the line that border enforcement will not please His Worship and that Border Patrol officers wishing to keep their jobs will ensure their future by not doing their jobs.

Welcome to la reconquista, Los Angeles. Arizona, Texas, you're next for becoming a Third World dumping ground, followed by [insert your ZIP Code here]. Bye-bye, my country. It was good knowing you.

Posted by: Rick Darby on April 6, 2007 9:56 AM



What percentage of the Mexican people are descendents of the Aztecs and Mayans who were forced off their land by the Spanish searching for gold and the "conversion to Catholicism" movement? How is it so many towns and other geographic entities are based on the Mayan language? How many Southerners were forced off their land by Northern carpetbaggers searching for money and the "conversion to United States movement"?

History cannot be run in reverse. If one were to try, one would need to refight all of the past wars.

Multiculturalism is another lunatic idea held by the open borders believers. Yet it is logically impossible to get rid of all the homophobes and the Islamaphobes. If one gets tossed out of society because he fails to believe in 100% of the gay agenda, the one doing the tossing is an Islamaphobe, and vice versa. Substitute anti-Semites for homophobes and the issue becomes even more complex.

Cheers.

Paul

Posted by: Paul Henri on April 6, 2007 1:15 PM



Paul,

Are you familiar with the word "idioglossia"?

Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary defines it as "a condition in which words are so poorly articulated that speech is either unintelligible or appears to be a made-up language."

Cheers,

Rick

Posted by: Rick Darby on April 6, 2007 2:11 PM



Wow.

Posted by: ptm on April 6, 2007 2:24 PM



Rick,

Ah, the radical idealogue takes off his clothes. It is a truism that a radical idealogue must attack the person and not the argument.

Fun counter-jabbing aside, please explain what sentence you find unintelligible. This is important to me because I am trying to help the deluded in an effort to save my country and culture.

All the Best,

Paul

Posted by: Paul Henri on April 6, 2007 3:12 PM



One should note that all the children born of these illegal interlopers are all counted as citizens, even though there is no law existing to consider them such, including the ones opponents to this post will cite. You should almost double or triple the number of illegals. Then it would be more accurate.

Paul is right and Rick is right too. You guys need to shake hands. Remeber that Clinton did nothing about the problem either. This is a clear-cut elites vs. Americans problem. Unfortunately, I don't think it will be resolved without a lot of violence. These people will only go back en masse at gunpoint. And the longer it goes on, the worse the "resolution" will get.

Posted by: BIOH on April 6, 2007 8:51 PM



"idioglossia" - might be way too kind to someone who writes what P Henri wrote after condemning multiculti crap. Ooh, ooh, will I be regarded as rad too?

Posted by: playrink on April 7, 2007 2:18 AM



Just reading this crap gives me a headache.

Posted by: Montezuma on April 7, 2007 1:04 PM



Since modern America is all about bookkeeping and everyone must pay as they go, the chief problem of illegal immigrants seems to be that they have no money when they need health care. Perhaps we could ask them for other assets: a pint of blood for admission to the Emergency Room, for instance. Or maybe a kidney suitable for transplant if there is something major involved.

Prairie Mary

Posted by: Mary Scriver on April 7, 2007 1:13 PM



Another tragic case of someone mislead by prejudice and sloppy statistics. Even if it's true that 30% of LA county's public health patients are "illegals" (we'll take Mr. Antonovich's word for it, as no objective source is cited), the relevant variable is health spending. Public health clinics provide very basic services such as vaccination (and they're not free).

Any figures given in a congressional "hearing" run exclusively by Republican wingnuts are not to be trusted or believed.

Just to give you an idea, the very anti-immigrant folks at the Center for Immigration Studies (they hate Mexicans even more thant Messr. v. Blowhard) came up with a total public cost (annual) for illegals of ....10 billion bucks at all levels of government. In the grand scheme of things in the U.S., that doesn't even amount to peanuts.

Posted by: Andrew on April 8, 2007 1:13 AM



Well, anyone who enjoys a good joke would have to go along with the kidney idea. I'd just love to see that debated on the news shows. Perhaps, if we put out our own comic books (as the Mexican govt. does), showing a reluctant busboy getting his kidney removed by Lou Dobbs, we could slow the invasion down a bit. As for their blood, it seems some parasitic blood disease that many illegals have makes that one a bit more problematic.

Instead, let's just let them continue with the aid of the American elite to cut the heart out of our communities, states and nation. Otherwise La Raza might call us racists.

P.S. Ken, remember to surrender quickly if the Chinese invade because you eat their food and they did help build the railroad -- and wasn't there a show called "Kung-Fu'?
sN

Posted by: sN on April 8, 2007 1:43 AM



I wonder what planet Andrew lives on, because illegals are flooding emergency rooms for basic care all over California and other states. Emergency room care is the most expensive kind. There are lots of hospitals who are closing down their emergency rooms becasue they can't treat the flood of illegals free of charge.

Ten billion? Are you nuts? Theres's got to be at least ten million illegal alien kids in our schools. If you figure $7-8000 per year per kid, that's 70-80 billion of taxpayer money, not to mention all the food stamps, subsidized housing, medical care, court and law enforcement costs, etc. Get a clue buddy! You don't have to read a lot to figure this out.

Also, your rhetoric doesn't help you to see clearly on the issue. These people are illegal alien foreign nationals, not "immigrants". We are a nation of citizens, not immigrants, get it? Everybody in the world is not an american citizen who is a plane ride away from coming home. That's nonsense. Get away from the liberal propanganda and start looking around and talking to people around you who deal with the issue everyday. That will tune you in soon enough, if you're willing to pull your head out of the sand and face reality.

Posted by: BIOH on April 8, 2007 1:28 PM



So, Andrew, make the case for brining the illegals here. What is it? To increase poverty, to lower our educational achievements, to fill all that empty space, to support Mexican govt. corruption, to increase the number of gang members, to provide the fast-food industry, poultry producers and construction industry with slaves, to replace our language and culture?

As for your racism argument, who cares? As if all the Mexican advocacy groups only want them here because they are blank slates --not because they are Mexicans. Would La Raza be going to war to make sure 10 million Russians were treated properly in the U.S. if they invaded.

Make your case, and we will throw in 10 pesos if you can leave out the "racism" word. And don't think the Govt. is picking up the tab when you point out health care costs. Look at your own insurance bill, too.

sN

Posted by: sN on April 8, 2007 1:39 PM



Note the statements in support of open borders lack logical reasoning. They are statements of opinion and attacks on the person. Such statements are dishonest. The dishonesty comprises the failure to admit they are statements of opinion or attacks on the person. If one believes in open borders, a statement to that effect is sufficient; you need not explain yourself. You weaken your position by also attacking the person. Let us engage in honest discourse. (If anyone doubts my propositions, please direct me to my error.)

Paul

Posted by: Paul Henri on April 8, 2007 5:04 PM



My impression of the CIS stats on the costs of immigration are that the figure ($11b-$22b) is the overall net fiscal cost of immigration, both legal and illegal, not as Andrew states, the total cost. What that means, AFAIK, is that immigration is, on the whole, a net fiscal loss to the economy. If the total cost of immigration were only $10b, that would indeed be 'peanuts', easily outweighed by the many fiscal benefits of immigration. The fact that it's a net loss means that, on balance, immigration is a small fiscal negative for America.

And California spends $3b a year providing government services to illegal immigrants alone. Not good, I think.

Posted by: PatrickH on April 8, 2007 9:08 PM






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